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Meeting Minutes: Retreat

February 24, 2006

Announcements:

The provost is here today.  We wanted you all to hear about support from Academic Affairs.

Dr. Aeschleman:

We talked about priorities that we were asked to submit.  We sent out priorities with comments to get it out to the campus community.  We took our charge to list pragmatic objectives that App could be involved in within seven directions. 

We have a real crisis in math and science/ engineering according to the president of the UNC system.  He saw first hand in rural China students in the 1st grade all sitting in front of their own computers doing math and science in English. 

The entire system only turned out 3 certified physics secondary ed teachers in the last five years.  How that translates into functional objectives remains to be seen. 

We can find the resources to do this as long as it’s reasonable.  If you want 4-8 courses that are small, we can probably do that.  We can track student credit hours so faculty aren’t punished.  It’s remarkable that we are the one institution that isn’t having to deal with budget caps. 

If we choose not to put something in the core, that doesn’t mean we do not value it as an institution. 

The more general, the less malleable, the more specific and direct, the more likely you can influence it in some way.  We have to generate skills that will generalize in whatever they do. 

I don’t know if we can do the well rounded approach.  There are different methods to understanding the world. 

If we go in saying there are 20 things we really value, we run the risk of not being able to do any of the 20 very well. 

If we go to smaller classes, it’s going to take more money. 

Students don’t know what the nature of the core is.  It’s hard sometimes even to get faculty to come to departmental meetings.  Part of the process is just doing the process.  If someone chooses not to avail themselves, they can’t complain. 

If you can, remind colleagues that if it’s not in the core, that doesn’t mean that it’s not valued. 

Discussion:

The fact that Schneider came and spent the day with us made a big difference. 

Assessment isn’t popular with faculty.  We need to tailor our forums in the future to our faculty.  When we present goals, we need a lot of evidence for faculty support.  We could do an electronic survey.  We could say 92% of faculty felt strongly that writing should be part of gen ed.  We need something to back up our goals. 

We need to let people know that assessment isn’t driving this, but that it’s going to happen. 

We’ll have to be clear about what assessment will be used for. 

We want to see a clear focus for goals for the core. 

Over 90% of our students are white.  Isn’t that our job to expose them to things?  Most are coming from similar backgrounds.  It’s not indoctrination, it’s an informed decision. 

Students do not have the right to remain free from unwelcome questions. 

We have to distinguish program assessment from course assessment. 

We really have to think about terminology: maybe student outcomes more than assessment. 

Criticism for Portland State:  Mostly self reported and the rubric is more complex than data allow for. 

We need a purpose:  Almost all have some sort of gen ed purpose statement that the goals address. 

There is someone in the Office of Institutional Research that could set up an electronic survey.  

If 60% of the core is non-tenure track, we want to find out what they think. 

Short Break

The survey for alumni can be used to survey faculty; we’ll circulate that. 

We talked about the value of an international experience.

We could work on the mission statement.  As far as goals go, we could either work further on them or eliminate some. 

A major issue is whether and how quantitative skills fit into the scheme of things.  If you see it as quantitative literacy, you could put it under number two. 

One of the reasons we want to address global and cultural engagement is that we want to address social responsibility. 

We have to think about what our institution is about. 

Making them understand that they have ethical decisions to make and that they have an impact is important.  Whether we say whatever coursework deals with ethics, ethics has to be there.  If you teach it separately, you don’t know it will be exposed to all students. 

Paolo Friere said the way to make people responsible members of a community is to base the course on dialogue and problem posing. 

We are not talking about teaching values, but getting people to examine them.  There are much deeper issues that go well beyond plagiarism. 

I agree that the place for ethics is the purpose statement. 

I know from my profession that the most important part of a code of ethics is the welfare of the people we serve. 

Is there a way we can look at what other schools have done to couch these issues?

We should not try to reinvent the wheel. 

Keefe suggests we come back, divide into small groups, and take goals and learning outcomes and work on them.

Pay attention to language. 

This may get shaped differently depending on the faculty survey.   

Break until 1:15, then small group work.