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Meeting Minutes

Second General Education Forum

November 11, 2005

About 50 people attended this forum held in the Student Union.

Susan Keefe announced that there will be a second small discussion group in the Hubbard Center on November 18 with Task Force member Alexandra Hellenbrand leading it. 

In response to questions raised at the last open forum about class size, it was announced that the average class size overall at the university is 24 students.  In 1000 level courses, it is somewhat larger at 31 students; in 2000 level courses it is 30 students.  This average class size has not changed much in the past ten years, although we may have made choices in the way resources have been distributed that has led to increasing class size in certain offerings.  Obviously, class size may seem larger in the individual student’s experience if s/he is taking more than one large core curriculum section.

Keefe also stated that the proportion of SCH taught by non-tenure track faculty is 43% of the total in 2004-5.  For 900 level courses, 79% of SCH are taught by non-tenure track; for 1000 level courses, 61%; for 2000 level, 42%.  These statistics differ by department.  Of the core curriculum courses, 56% of SCH are taught by non-tenure track faculty.  Another way to look at this, is that the majority of SCH in 16 of 24 departments offering core curriculum courses were taught by non-tenure track faculty.  Clearly, we have given the responsibility of our core curriculum to part-time and temporary instructors.

Freshman AP credit hours at ASU were said to be the third highest in the UNC system, with 41% of freshman entering with AP credits.  These students experience the core differently if they are exempt from the requirements.

Keefe gave an overview of the general principles and goals of the task force.  The Gen Ed Task Force is made up of 23 individuals from 14 departments, the College of Education, the College of Arts & Sciences, General Studies, the Library, the Office of Institutional Research, and 2 students.  We are working at uncovering the educational principles shared by our faculty.  We want to find out what is most important for our students to learn, and what qualities we want to cultivate.  We conducted focus groups in September, and we are holding open forums throughout the year.  We have been collecting information from throughout the university, and asking the departments and disciplines to contribute to the discussion formally.  You are invited to contribute answers to what contributions your discipline makes of value to a person in the 21st century.  We need to find values we have in common; it’s a long, hard process.

This month departments will be receiving a letter inviting them to contribute to the discussion.  We will be asking departments to evaluate their current contribution to the core curriculum and changes they might want to make.  This is an opportunity for faculty to contribute ideas through their department.

Keefe compared slides describing ASU’s current educational goals as listed in the catalogue and the consensus on educational outcomes by the Association of American Colleges & Universities.  Several things are missing from ASU’s statement including “hands-on experience,” “collaborative” skills, civic “responsibility,” and “integrative thinking.” 

AAC&U’s Key liberal education outcomes: The emerging consensus. 

-Analytic, communication, quantitative and information skills.

-Understanding of and hands on experience with disciplines that explore the natural, social, and cultural world. 

-Intercultural knowledge and collaborative problem solving skills.

-Civic, social, and personal responsibility.

-Integrative thinking, ability to transfer knowledge from one setting to another. 

It was emphasized that these forums are not intended to be considered as linear, but experimental.  Today we will be discussing models that have not been considered by the task force before but will engage us with the idea of educational models that differ from ours.  We encourage you to ask questions and make comments, to move toward some consensus.  There will be another forum January 27 to continue this work.

Second speaker, Dave Haney “Overview of Gen-Ed Models

We have to look at universal and particular at the same time, and how others have put their goals into models. 

Ranges in Gen Ed structures include dimensions of:

-Commonality of student experience (from menu driven to specific core courses)

-Interdisciplinary

-Career stage (vertical model?)

-Relation to major (completely separate?)

-Content (varying?)

-Co-curricular relations (service learning?)

-Percentage of degree in core courses

ASU’s is menu-driven, disciplinary, horizontal, somewhat separate, varied in content, not much co-curricular relations, and about 36% of the degree.

Other colleges that differ from these outcomes are described.  Grand Valley State has thematic groups (take 3 courses) and a cultural emphasis requirement.

Farleigh Dickinson has a four course core: A. Global Challenge.  B. Perspectives on Individual.  C.  Cross Cultural Perspectives.  D. The American Experience.

-Totally unrelated to major.  Only 10% of the degree.

Kalamazoo College:

-Requires freshman seminar (Foundations)

-2 courses in cultures abroad

-Connections: vertical with everyone taking a comprehensive exam in his or her major. 

-Encourages study abroad programs with credit in core

-Heavily interdependent between core and major. 

-Smaller school than ASU.

(By the way, the most radical models were chosen to illustrate things.)

Millikin University:

-The most radically co-curricular.

-Requires three hours of off campus service learning.

-Very vertical model.

-Required courses – interlocked with major.

Second Speaker, Sammye Sigmann, “James Madison University’s Gen Ed” 

James Madison: The Human Community.

Planning for the current program began in 1994 and implementation started in 1997.  The budget was $100,000 (excluding faculty salaries); no new faculty were acquired.  Grant monies were acquired for revision of courses. 

What JMU does well:

The definition and relevance of the core is clearly conveyed to the students.  It is given the same level of importance as the major.  In fact, the core is called The First Major (41-45 hours).  They test competency in writing, information literacy.  Their goals reflect the AAC&U with 4-point mission.  Appears on their website.

There are five thematic clusters.  In each cluster, students complete a set of courses called a package.  Cluster #1 is Skills for the 21st Century, such as Information Competency.  Students choose from three areas.  Cluster 2 is Arts and Humanities (participation in study abroad will fulfill this).  Cluster 3 is The Natural World, where students recognize the relevance of science and math.  Cluster 4 is Social and Cultural Processes.  Cluster five is Individuals in the Human Community (includes wellness, social relations). 

JMU has been evaluated once.  Recommended breaking up some of the packages.

Third Speaker, Ray Williams, UNC-Charlotte

This is a new general education program, started fall 2003.  There are 20,000 students, with 16,000 undergrads, twelve doctoral programs.  It is a Doctoral/Research Intensive university.  There are 34-37 semester hours in Gen Ed.  This is not a vertical model.  The goal is to complete this model by the end of the sophomore year. 

Four areas of Liberal Studies:

I.                   Development of Fundamental Skills and Inquiry

                  -writing, information literacy, math

II.                Inquiry in the Sciences

-11 semester hours

-not linked in sequences

-options such as “sports physics”

-only one lab science course required

     III.       Themes of Liberal Education

                        -12 semester hours

                        -Their signature part of gen.ed.  Created new courses, approaches.

     IV.       Arts and Society

                        -Dance

                        -Film

                        -Music

                        -Theater

                        -Visual Arts

                        -Western Culture, Historical Awareness

                                    38 sections, 10 departments

                                    Varied in content.

                        -Global and International Connections

                                    39 sections, 12 departments

      V.              Ethical Issues and Cultural Critique

                        -lots of choices for students

      VI.             Communication Skills

                                    -have communication skill designators (W,oral,FL)

                                    -6 hours writing in the discipline

                                    -One course on oral communication skills.

                                    -Foreign language: Department specific (many require it)

Issues and Solutions:  

  1. Transition from old program
  2. Staffing offered sections
  3. Crediting departments
  4. Articulation agreement with community colleges

Exempted transfer students from taking requirements but they have to take more credit hours.

It was advised that we get an administrative structure (they have Dean) in place 2 years before to start the transition process.  Transition to new core takes 3-4 years.  The institution must commit to resources for the new core.  The Dean of Gen. Ed. had to work on getting faculty and departments to commit to the core.

 

Open for questions:

Joni Petschauer: Did anyone find a campus where all faculty are responsible for the core?

Dave Haney: Ursinus.  There’s a required faculty course that all faculty must teach.  JMU involves the whole faculty.

Jim Barnes:  Where do languages fit in?

Sammye Sigmann: Students can test out of them at James Madison.

Dave Haney: Semiotic systems are an alternative to language requirements.

Ray Williams:  UNCC students work with international students to translate poetry.  This integrates language with the cultural aspect. 

Laurie Semmes: What’s an articulation agreement?

Sue Keefe:  Universities will accept two-year A.A. programs in place at community colleges. 

Dave Haney:  We tried to put in a junior level writing requirement at Auburn, but the there was a state law made against it.  It is difficult to require gen. ed. above the sophomore level.

RW: In some programs courses are identified that allow them to be exempt.  At UNC-C you pretty much don’t have to take the core if you transfer.

Why use the term “Western culture?” 

It is a self-conscious effort to include both the West and non-Western cultures.

James Ivory: Are there other examples of how to evaluate the effectiveness (assessment) of education at James Madison?

Sammy Sigmann:  There is a website and they have One Book that describes the requirements.  “You need to sign up this day for taking your placement test.”  They walk them through it. 

JP:  ASU’s “First Connections” does the same thing.  We could give out bookmarks, put it on the syllabus.  Lots of things to strengthen identifying the core.

-We could have academic celebrations.

JI:  I like the idea of 1st major. 

Why is assessment necessary?

SK: It has to be built into any model these days.  SACS requires it.

Peter Wachs:  JMU has a great model of assessment.  They are nationally recognized.  They have a doctoral degree in higher education on assessment.  Assessment is fairly well integrated at James Madison.  Assessment has to do with accountability.

Jill Ehnenn: What happens if students don’t pass comprehensive exams given for assessment purposes?

SS: JMU has many dates for you to take exams.  You can take them over and over.  They offer tutoring.  Don’t know if it affects retention.

JE:  How many students get in the career of their choice would be an interesting topic to address.

Who administers the exams and what do they cost?

PW: They have a large assessment and do it one day a semester.  JMU creates its own exams.  All materials are created on campus. 

Bob White: JMU is working on an internationalization and collaborative efforts in gen. ed..

Dave Haney: Kalamazoo has comprehensive exams that count for 1 to 2 units.

How were these schools chosen as models for today?

SK: JMU is a model program identified by AAC&U.  UNC-C is a comparable university in our university system.  At this point, we are trying to cast the net broadly for ideas.

DH: The five models in my presentation were all from the top nine that the AAC&U has recommended as best practices.  These models represented the extremes of possible models.

Chris Eklund: At JMU, you just take one cluster?

SS: You take five clusters; the first cluster must be completed in the first year. 

JI: Did we look at feedback from the non-academic or private sector?

SK:  A couple of sub-committees exist for the purpose of gathering such information through surveys and focus groups. 

To what extent do employers want service learning in students’ experience?

We don’t know yet.

All these programs list a variety of competencies and skills.  I didn’t see any mention of reading.  I wonder if we’re missing out on something here?

Tim Harris: I saw a description of information gathering skills.  But this is not reading.

JE:  I have a problem with thinking that information is reading and communication is writing. 

SS:  Reading is included at JMU under writing.

Tom McLaughlin: Are there any business classes in the core at these places?

Yes, at both JMU and UNC-C.  The business faculty teach in the core, but not much.

TM:  Students need to learn about business. 

Where is the media literacy?  Literacy about screens?  Students come to us woefully ignorant.  They need to be able to evaluate web sites, film, TV.  They should know how visual images can be manipulated.

David Humphrey: Also, our focus groups noted a lack of fiscal responsibility and knowledge about household debt.  Needs to be addressed in core.

Have you surveyed faculty and alumni?

SK: No.  We may do that. 

DH:  We’re going to work with the alumni office to see about their list.  We want to talk about how they view the kinds of skills and knowledge that we have. 

Tina Hogan:  Every year we do a senior survey; there are sophomore surveys. 

What about the administrative structure?

That is something that will have to be addressed.  Currently, only the Core Curriculum Council is responsible for the integrity of the core.  They typically are reactive and do not generate cucciculum.

Where are the students developmentally?

The core cannot do it all.

The new core should reflect our students today.  Not as they were 20 years ago.

What are the specific questions you want the departments to answer?

SK:  We are asking what you currently do in your department; what changes you would like to undertake in the core; and what shape you think the core should take.

JP:  Gen Ed does not have a faculty advocate.  We need to have a strong faculty led organization that generates information focused on the core and accountable for it. 

SK:  You can email me and attend small group discussions.  We are gathering information in multiple ways.  There are lots of ways to contribute ideas, and we are reaching out for ideas.  We’re interested in hearing from students and staff to find out what kinds of things they see. 

Tim Harris:  We’re also sharing information with everybody.  Complete summaries of focus group things that we do are being put on the website. 

Forum adjourned.